Divina Commedia – Dante Alighieri , Hell canto 21 v. 139, Kroesbaard
In conversation with Saul Judd
sj- Do you like to be nomad?
bj: Yes, I do and for the moment I don’t see any other option. I feel at ease in this situation of moving around and hearing new stories.
sj- How does the idea and reality of being a nomad plays in relation to your art?
bj: Well, I like to work with different kinds of materials and different ideas. A studio practice is as an exploration. Sometimes, when I get conscious of the fact that I can see, as sensorial perception, I can get very confused.
l see and sense imaginary and illusionary spaces and I like to transform them into new perception of space. When I have a special visual moment I want to put that into a visual form to keep.
sj- What was the project with the basement about?
bj: For an exhibition I bumped into a lost museum in the basement of an existing museum. The museum in the basement used to be a museum for local history. After they closed it, all the stuff stayed there and got covered with dust and darkness. When I opened that door I entered a frozen theatre play, a treasure, like a good hidden secret.
I started to clean it out, and archiving all the pieces one by one. Next I staged the lost museum with big and small interventions in its actual location and made it accessible for the public.
sj- Tell us about intuition, experiment and surprises?
bj: I do trust on my intuition as a guide. I mean if something feels good, its probably good, if I have a bad feeling about it, I try not to. When something smells bad, don’t eat it! But of course I also make a lot of mistakes. That’s the experimental part in the process I guess: allowing mistakes and discovering news things by trail and error.
In my practice I try to generate a platform for this, where the result often is a calculated surprise.
sj- Collaborations play an essential role in your art practice. How do you deal with this?
bj: Collaborating is embracing other influences. By doing so there is an experience for both parties. By organizing this group show (XIX) I get in touch with a variety of different people with different ideas and media.
This social interaction almost happens automatic, but is vital to me.
sj- How about your Frankfurt experience. Tell us the cool and uncool about it.
bj: It is great. I live in a bunker on an island. Really!